Him to turn around that decision and get on that plane and go. They say all options are on the table to preserve democracy there. Good evening, everybody, im Martha Maccallum and this is the story. Joe biden continues to field questions on the decades old anita hill hearings. He answered them again this morning. But now, some are saying that all of this apologizing is rewriting the past. It is somewhat unfair to Supreme CourtJustice Clarence thomas, who, after the long and dramatic hearing, had the belief of 58 of americans. 24 believed the story of professor anita hill. In a piece about to publish in the new york post, writes that he wished the committee had been more fair to anita hill. Sorry, joe, that is rewriting history. The hearing was fair. Anita hills testimony was full of holes and devoid of evidence to back a perp claim. There are also questions tonight about how biden saying he believed a need help from the very beginning, when and Justice Clarence thomas is 2007 book, biden told him, i will be your biggest offender. Theres a lot to unravel. Marc thiessen and chris hahn standing by, also with me, carly free arena, with her unique take on all of those. Also, first to mike tobin come alive in iowa as we erase the former Vice President joe biden. Good evening. Could evening. We are expecting him in dubuque, iowa, at any moment now. Somewhat of a light deer here in iowa. In an official stop in between cedar rapids and dubuque at an Ice Cream Store in monticello. He made his First Official stop, cedar rapids, iowa, he waited little time getting into the general election business, and gunning for President Trump. We cant afford four or more years of a president whose entire agenda has been to divide the country, to split us, to make us be we have to talk about unity. We have to bring people back together again. This is bidens third term as a solo candidate in iowa. In 1988, it ended poorly. In 2008, he took fifth place in iowa with less than 1 of the vote, dropped out shortly after that. Now he shows up in iowa with a dominant lead. According to the latest cnn poll, hes 24 points ahead of Bernie Sanders. Some say big on front this early makes biden vulnerable. Hes coming in with a target on his back this time. As a frontrunner, people are already targeting him but not least of which is the president of the United States. About half hour ago, biden weighed in on twitter over venezuela, the violence in venezuela today over Peaceful Protesters is criminal. Maduros administration is due to suffering. We must restore democracy. Serious element to an otherwise exciting day for the biden camp as they show up in iowa with a commanding lead. Martha . Martha thank you very much. Move back in a few moments. Marc thiessen, American Enterprise scholar and Fox News Contributor and chris hahn, syndicated radio host and former aide to senator chuck schumer. Great to have both of you with us this evening. Marc, your thoughts on the fact, as we walk this unfold, and everybody rehashing the anita hill story, which is decades old, you have to think also about clarence thomas, who was watching all this play out yet again and sort of going through the very painful process that it was for him as well. He had to go through doing the kavanaugh hearings because everyone was rehashing the history but back then. Joe biden is a super old candidate. Hes if he wins, hell be 77 years old on the day of his inauguration. That is the same age Ronald Reagan was when he left office. One of the problems with being old as a candidate as you bring up you have old baggage. You have the anita hill hearings. This happened in 1991. There is a poll out there that showed 30 of democrats dont approve of his handling of the anita hill hearings. 44 percent dont know because they werent born. [laughter] acids lead expands, as we are seeing the polling coming and that he has a 24point lead or so, it makes it more likely this will be central in the campaign because the 19 other democrats and counting will go after him on it. The more his lead grows, the more they are falling behind, the more they will go after joe biden on the anita hill thing. Martha that is right. Chris hahn, i want to play this for you, this is a quote from lucy florez, one of the women who accused him of inappropriate touching. She said, as anita hill recently found out, not exactly sorry either, what do we do when the offender hasnt bothered to take the first step forward toward forgiveness. Then you have this for me make a pretty make a bridge is key. I can promise you, i know joe biden, he went up behind her, take a deep breath because he was about to go on stage. You took a deeply personally and i you are writing a New York Times oped about it, demanding an apology. This, once again, is completely ridiculous, at the rest of america thinks it is ridiculous, too. Im done. Martha chris hahn . I dont think she is totally wrong. I think lucy florez may have felt her personal space invaded but she even said herself that she didnt think it was in nature or meant to offend. I think it is time to move on from lucy flores. I think it is also what Vice President biden said about anita hill, i think that was good enough. I think that weve moved to a different place in our society than we were in 1991 when these hearings were going on. I think more people believe anita hill today than believed her then, who remember those hearings come at us like more people believe Monica Lewinsky today then believed her in the 90s. Things have changed, our nation has evolved, joe biden is a good man, and if he has invaded peoples space or made them feel uncomfortable, i dont think he was intending to do that in a negative way, and the same way that we think there are some people who have done this and women should be believed. But i do think that joe biden is going to move past this and to be very formidable contender. People will attack him, martha, but martha i think it will mostly come from the democrats side. Lets take a look of a cnn poll, which sees him getting an 11 bump since his announcement came out. Back to you, marc thiessen, in terms of what he needs to do in iowa, bad memories for him from 2008. Some say that he was upset that he sort of left the race as early as he did, both times he ran, and he doesnt want their staff to dog him and he will fight his way through at this time. Knocked out. This time hes a frontrunner go again. A very different situation back then. He was in the back of the pack. That is why everyone will come after him. The whole thing about the smiling of the hair and the rubbing shoulder isnt going to go away, and he says this is a different era, it was never okay to come up to a woman you dont know in a Work Environment and smell her hair and give her a massage. If someone did that to my daughter tomorrow, i would be ticked off about it and so would most americans. The difference is that women are coming forward now and saying something, where before they were afraid to lose their jobs. The other thing is, anita hill said to the New York Times a few weeks ago that joe biden set the stage for the kavanaugh confirmation. That is an open wound for democrats about is a very big vulnerability because that is how they will go after him. The handling of the anita hill testimony set the stage for Brett Kavanaugh to get through in the senate and that will hurt him. Martha go ahead, chris. Marc, you are clutching your prose over nothing would have a present of the of United States who said that he grabs women by the you know what. You had nothing to say about it then, you have nothing to say about it now. His offenses are minor compared to the president. Your release of any nondisclosure agreement that any one ever assigned to the president of United States, martha chris, the problem is on the democrat side smelling peoples hair. Martha marc, chris, problem is on the democrats aside for him because he has 20 people running, so he is the target. That is where the target is. It is on joe biden. Guys, i will bring in thank you very much for being here. Also joining me, 2016 president ial candidate, former ceo of hewlettpackard and author of the really good new book called find your way which i highly recommend, carly, good to see you. Work in progress. What do you think about that . Why do you think about the relitigation of this anita hill thing . What does it say about joe biden and where we are right now in politics . I do think it says that joe biden has to get through a primary in the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is moving further and further and further and further to the left. Lets take it outside of politics for just one moment. There is real abuse that goes o on. Matt lauer, other people in this town, harvey weinstein, other people in tinseltown, the gymnastic coats, there is real assault and real abuse. This kind of thing diminishes all of that. Im sorry, relitigating anita hill, that was litigated. Clarence thomas is a Supreme Court justice. Brett kavanaugh was litigated and hes a Supreme Court justice. Putting someones shoulders in a Work Environment honestly, it happens all the time. Things that may make women uncomfortable doesnt make a man bad. It may be makes them thoughtless or clueless or careless but not a bad man. This categories about real abuse and assault. Martha being more considerate and aware, which he says he is going to do what you make a great point about the real abuse that goes on out there and how these things become a magnet for discussion. There was an interesting piece, the importance of the Union Backing that joe biden has received so far. Some people have concluded that is the old style of writing. But with these Union Leaders were saying to her in pennsylvania, we dont like the fact that the party is coming so far left. That is why we came out so early in favor of joe biden. The president says the membership is with him. And the leadership is with biden. Heres the thing, here is why the Union Backing is powerful. Because unions have a powerful organizing mechanism. They get their people out to vote. So trump shouldnt dismiss the outcome the other democrats should not dismiss that. You will recall Hillary Clinton worked really hard to get Union Backing and did not get all the unions tobacco because they werent with her. Martha they were uncomfortable with her. They say that. I think it is significant that he does have the backing for backing. Martha lets take a listen to the joe biden on medicare at a rally he was out yesterday because this is a big writing ground for the Democratic Party in deciding who they are and what they support. Watch this. What are your coverages from your employer or on your own, you all should have a choice to buy into a public option plan for medicare. Your choice [cheers and applause] the Insurance Company isnt doing the right thing, you should have another choice. Martha is that politically the right place to be in for him . Well, for most americans, it makes a heck of a lot more sense to say, my gosh, how long have we been arguing about health care . With what he saying, is, you can have a choice. I was speaking with a leftleaning person today and they said, health care is a right. I said, yes, but if the Democrat Party were Bernie Sanders or their nominee continue to say the policy is the end of private insurance, and a Big Government program that is going to martha taking away our rights. Im sorry, that is a losing game. I think biden is trying to thread the needle. He has his left flank of the party. Martha another guy whos gotten a lot of attention is pete buttigieg, and he was asked on the daily show if he felt he was benefiting from white male privilege in this very broad group that has a lot of women, people of color in it. Take a look at what he had to say about that. I do think it is simply harder for candidates of color, or for female candidates. Im very mindful of that. Martha is that the language that Everyone Needs to speak these days . In this case, i think hes right. I think it is harder when you are different. That is not a political comment. When you are different, its different. So i think it is different for women. I think it is different for people of color, and i think things have been done in a certain way for a really long time. So i agree with him on that. However, it is a big step to go from that acknowledgment of reality to, gee, because you are a white man, you are a bad person or you shouldnt get this job are you are not qualified. That is a bridge too far. Martha we are looking at live shots from venezuela tonight where things are getting very agitated on the streets. This is actually pictures from earlier this evening. Well get the live shot back up as well. What do you think the white house response should be to this . If you were president , what would you do . I actually think the administration has handled this very well. I think they were clear and coming out and backing the legislature and guaido. I think that early action caused the rest of the world to follow suit. I think that unanimity around the world was very important. I think it is a demonstration once again that russia is not our friend, that cuba is not our friend. However, i also think now we are at a very delicate point because you will recall how long the Obama Administration and the rest of the world called for Bashar Alassad to go. He must go, he must go, he must go, and he didnt go. So i think now we are at the point where the United States has provided all the support that it can, and we need to see what the venezuelan people do. The venezuelan military. Martha if they need our support . I think that is a very serious move with major repercussions. I would be very thoughtful and careful about that. Martha carly fiorina, great to see you. Good to have you want tonight. As we mentioned, joe biden is in iowa tonight. He will take the stage any minute now. There is a lot of reviews and critiques of what he said last night. Lets see how he does tonight when he gets up there. 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Understanding that he was ready to go, he made a decision that we had been urging him to make for quite some time. He was diverted from that action by the russians. We hope youll reconsider and get back on the plane. Martha that was a great secretary pompeo with bret baier moments ago urging a Nicolas Maduro ticket on the plane and head for havana. The white house that it is time for the rightful leader, juan guaido, to take over. Here he is earlier alongside armed troops, telling the people of venezuela in a video statement this morning that they are in the last stages of the maduro rain, saying, the moment is now to rise up and we have seen that happening throughout the last several hours of the day. Heres a live look now at what we are getting this evening. We are still waiting for our live look. We had live cameras that were looking at this area in the dark, which has suddenly disappeared. We dont have access to them at this moment for whatever reason. 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