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Biden unfortunately, i believe were out of time, the time necessary to mount a Winning Campaign for the nomination. But while i will not be a candidate, i will not be silent. Odonnell and he certainly wasnt saturday afternoon, when we joined the Vice President and dr. Biden at their official residence on the grounds of the naval observatory for his First Television interview since the announcement. Its been a big week. How are you feeling about this decision . Biden ah, good. Its the right decision for the family, its the right decision odonnell is it that you think you couldnt win or that you didnt want to run . Biden couldnt win. Ill be very blunt if i thought we couldve put together the campaign that our supporters deserve and our contributors deserved, ill. I would have gone ahead and done it. Odonnell but, why did it take you until tuesday to figure that out . Tuesday night . Biden because it took that long for us to decide as a family. Look, dealing with the loss of beau, any parent listening whos lost a child, knows that you cant. It doesnt follow schedules of primaries and caucuses and contributors and the like. It just. You. And everybody grieves at a different pace. Jill biden and we had such hope that. You know, that he was going to live. And so i think it really wasnt until the day he died that we gave, well. I dont think we odonnell the bidens lost their son, beau, in may at age 46 to brain cancer. The Vice President told us that during his illness and while grieving, he put his plans to run for president on hold. Odonnell what was the single most important thing in deciding not to run . Biden ive said from the beginning that i dont know whether our ability to deal with the loss of beau would reach a point where we could do that before time ran out. And there was nothing we could control. Odonnell were you disappointed . Or were you relieved . Dr. Jill biden no, ii think i was disappointed. I mean i thought joe would be a great president. And you know iive seen his. In the 40 years weve been together, ive seen, you know, the strength of his character, hishis optimism, you know, his hope. Biden glad were doing this interview, i like to hear jill say all that stuff. Dr. Jill biden so i believed he wouldve been the best president. Odonnell i mean, how much did you struggle with this, about whether to run or not . Biden what i struggled with was whether or not we could emotionally i could, i speak for me i could emotionally handle this in a way that when i thought of beau i didnt. It wasnt a problem. For example, i at one point late summer, i thought, well, you know, i think we can do this. And ill never forget my little granddaughter, were down by the swimming pool, mom says, time for dinner everybody. And everybody goes up, and shes lying between my legs with her head on my shou. My chest and turns around and puts her arms around me and starts sobbing and says, pop, i see daddy all the time. I see daddy all the time. Pop, you smell like daddy. Youre not gonna leave me, are you pop . Well, when that happens, you go, know, how could. And so there are those kinds of ups and downs. But by the time, now, you know, we go to. We were home last weekend and we there every weekend we can get, and we went to her. She has a great little cross country, shes only 11 years old. Dr. Jill biden to her track meet. Biden track meet. And she runs and she finishes and i give her a big hug, she said, daddy would be happy, wouldnt he . Wouldnt he . So its a total. You know, it just. It just takes time. And until you get there, you know, its not. Not an appropriate thing to throw your. And by the way, you cant run for president unless you throw your entire being into it. Odonnell how often did the two of you talk about this decision . Every night . Biden well, we just looked at each other half the time. Dr. Jill biden yeah. Biden like ii. Id get up in the morning some mornings and id say, you know, jill, i think i. Because i have to admit to you, it was driving us crazy, is you guys. We love you. But, you know, serious press people would say, well, we have on Good Authority from a very close friend of joe bidens that hes going to announce tomorrow. Or, we have on Good Authority that hes not going to run. Or, good. And. That used to drive me crazy. And so part of it was iid get up some mornings and say, lets just end this thing, man. We dont have time to. I dont want to go. Keep getting buffeted like this. Andand so some mornings wed say, like i remember about a month ago we were on the porch at home and i said, you know, when. Maybe we should just. I dont know if were going to get there in time. Maybe we should just say were not going. And jill said, but what about the Supreme Court . Dr. Jill biden what about education . What about Community Colleges . I felt like we were. Everything we had worked so hard for in this administration, you know, could all. Could just all change. Biden well, thats because shes prejudiced. She thinks that i have the best chance of winning the general election. So thats. laughter odonnell but thats really interesting to hear that, that you were really pushing him to go forward. Dr. Jill biden oh yeah. Sure. Odonnell will you ever run for Political Office again . Biden no. Believe. I hope i leave office in. As a respected figure who can. Convene people and bring people together. And i just think the president and i talked about what we do together. What we each want to do out of office. Odonnell you said something in the rose garden. You said, if i could be anything, i would want to be the president that ended cancer. Biden its true. Its personal, i acknowledge. But, you know, cancer affects every single family. And, you know, one of the great advantages, and an advantage i had, its. Of being Vice President , i had access to the finest people in the world. And i am confident if we make the decision john kennedy made of going to the moon, and we said, we are going to cure cancer, within the next several years we can do that. Thats how close it is. Odonnell after we interviewed the bidens together, jill biden stepped out and we continued our conversation with the Vice President. Odonnell there was a lot you had to weigh in this run for president. I know you talked to your son, beau, about running for president. What did he want you to do . Biden well, first thing id like to do, and youre being very polite the way youre asking me the question because some people have written that, you know, beau on his death bed said, dad, youve got to run. And there was this sort of hollywood moment that, you know, nothing like that ever, ever happened. Beau, from the time he was in his 30s or actually his late 20s was my. He and hunter were one of my two most reliable advisors. And beau all along thought that i should run and i could win. But there was not what was sort of made out as kind of this hollywoodesque thing that at the last minute beau grabbed my hand and said, dad, youve got to run, like, win one for the gipper. It wasnt anything like that. Odonnell i want to show you a photo of president obama and you. This is in the oval office. This is right before you went out into the. To the rose garden and told everybody that you werent running for president. What advice did the president give you . Biden well, i called the president early in the morning and he was in the gym working out. And he took my call and i said, mr. President , i said, we decided. Iim not going to run. And he knew how close it was, what was going on. And i said, im going to go out and announce it this morning or early afternoon. He said, joe, ill be proud to stand with you. Odonnell but did the president want you to run . Biden the president wanted me to do what i thought was best. Odonnell but that speech in the rose garden sounded a little bit like a campaign platform. Did you have this. A speech written for whether you were going to run or whether you werent going to run . Because part of the speech sounded like, ill be ready. Ive got a plan if you need me at some point. Biden well, the truth is. Theres some truth to that because what i wanted to make clear. Odonnell but are you leaving the door open if something happens. Biden no, no, no. I was making the case that i do want to influence the Democratic Party. I want to make no bones about that. I dont want the Party Walking away from what barack and i did. Odonnell you said, i will not be silent. Biden i will not be silent. And i went on and, in fact, said, and i want to the extent i can influence the direction of the Democratic Party and the country. Odonnell well, let me ask you about that because you didnt mention Hillary Clinton at all during the speech. But you sure did seem to be referring to her. You said, i dont think we should look at republicans as our enemies. Was that a reference to the comment she made. Biden that wasnt directed at hillary. Thatthatthat was a reference to washington. All of washington. Odonnell but she called republicans enemies in the debate. Biden well, ii think. I think sheshe was being more humorous than she was direct about that. Odonnell but she said that in the debate. She was asked. Biden well. Odonnell . Which enemy are you more proud of. And she said the iranians and then she also mentioned the republicans. Biden well, she was smiling when she said the republicans. And iii dont take it as thats her view. But i do know its the view of many people, like, for example, and i know this statement there were two big articles ready to say, why is biden so naive . These people are our enemy. From serious people. Theyre not my enemy. Ii. Howhow in gods name can we govern this country if we view the opposition as an enemy . Odonnell did you watch the democratic debate . Did you watch Hillary Clinton . Did you think shes unbeatable . Biden no. Iii didnt think that. What i thought was she did a great job. And i thought bernie did a great job. Look, ive debated hillary 13 times in National President ial debates. I know hillary. I know her debating skills. I know mine. Debate. And i thought she did. She comported herself really well. Odonnell but you wouldnt have considered running for president unless you thought or had some doubts about Hillary Clinton. Biden not at all. That has nothing to do with it. Ive said from the beginning, look, i like hillary. Hillary and i get along together. The only reason to run is because ii still think i could do a better job than anybody else could do. Thats the reason to run. I wouldnt run against hillary. Odonnell but you also said in the rose garden that democrats should run on the record. Biden thats right. Odonnell the president s record. Biden i believe that. Odonnell do you think hillarys running on that or Something Else . Biden well, shell run on part of it. If not, shes already made a decision on two important things. It doesnt mean she wont be a great president. Odonnell so when the New York Times reported this past week that theres real tension between you and Hillary Clinton, that the mere mention of her name makes you fume according to some advisors. Biden well, let me tell you something, this. Must be the same guys who knew i was going the case. Go back and find anybody who says for the four years we worked together hillary and i werent friends. Odonnell what do you think of donald trump . Biden the one thing i do. Im disappointed in donald trump. I know what a showman and all that he is. But i really. I really dont think its healthy and i hope he reconsiders this sort of attack on all immigrants. I think that is. I think that is beneath the country. I dont think its where the American People are. And i hope he really doesnt believe it. Odonnell you have 15 months left in office. Biden i do. Odonnell what one or two things do you think you can get done . Biden well, i think we can get a number of things done. One, i think we can really begin to nail down this commitment to work on cancer and head toward a moonshot. The president and i have already talked about that. Number two, i think we can make some real progress, particularly with paul ryan, who is a good guy, on working toward an accommodation on the budget and on keeping the government open. Odonnell this white house has not been able to get much done with this congress. Do you think. Biden thats true. Odonnell . That speaker ryan will change things . Biden yes. This is a decent guy. And he knows you cannot function. 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