pence. we all know he struggled for about 24 hours during the first campaign after the "access hollywood" tape came out. decided to stand by president trump, has never wavered in the more than four years since then. he has been under tremendous pressure from the president to try to do something that would not be constitutional, to overturn the elections results. he made it clear that he could not and would not do that yesterday. tonight those clear comments of condemnation from vice president pence perhaps a final declaration of independence. >> and i am told that the president has not spoken to the vice president since all this has unfolded. they have not spoken, if you can imagine that, even as the vice president was whisked out of the senate chamber and taken to a secure location, no contact to the president of the -- no contact with the president of the united states. the break began earlier today when vice president pence issued a letter or a rather lengthy letter explaining that he would