there been a moment when the nation gasped? in the nixon and clinton impeachments, they did. there was a pattern nixon created political espionage and tried to cover it up. for bill clinton, he lied about an affair, he lied to his wife, cabinet, and country. which meant he lied to his wife, his cabinet, his country, and ultimately under oath. t?s that moment occurred yet? house democrats tell me they put together a narrative that makes the president look venal, mean, reckless, transactional. but has it reached the level of it must be an impeachable offense? even democrats looking at polling data which is at best for them is mixed are uncertain, but it looks like they're going to go ahead anyway. >> o'donnell: margaret, we have had this interesting dynamic, public servants, who are haolitical, testifying against their boss, the president. ifere do we stand now? >> what this hearing has done is seally laid bare, as one diplomat said to me, that america should fear the weak state, not the deep state. we've heard from this parade of