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Below the target air speed. Investigators search for answers in the crash of asiana flight 214. The pilot had only 43 hours of experience flying the boeing 777. It was the first time landing this type of plane at sfo. 307 people were on board. Two chinese citizens died. 182 people rushed to hospitals around the city. A huge amount of spine fractures, some of which include paralysis. Emergency vehicles are responding. Investigators are investigating whether a rescue vehicle ran over a survivor on the runway. A crash at a small airport in alaska killing all ten on board. Officials say the air taxi was taking off when it crashed and burst into flames. 40 still missing following a massive train explosion in canada. John kerrys wife is in critical but stable condition. Secretary of state was with his wife when she was admitted. It was a relatively clean running of the bulls. Officials say there was no goring. Politics can be a nasty dirty game. Taft moves up to the shoulder of lincoln. Hell bump him out of the way. Oh that aint right. One of the cameramen and all that matters. A final farewell to 19 elite firefighters who died battling the fire in arizona. Were hearing from the sole survivor for the very first time. Means a lot. On cbs this morning. Andy murrays moment at wimbledon. Finally. I hope you guys enjoyed it i tried my best. How much do you remember of that last point . I have no idea what happened. This mornings eye opener is presented by choice hotels. Welcome to cbs this morning. Charlie rose is off so Anthony Mason is with us. Nice to have you here. Were going to begin with new developments in the crash of asiana flight 214 in San Francisco. Officials say the plane was traveling too slow when it tried to land saturday. The tail appears to clip a seawall at the end of the runway before skidding and slamming on to the tarmac. Two teenage girls from china were killed. Six people are still in Critical Condition this morning. Officials say the pilot didnt have much experience with the boeing 777. It was his first time landing that kind of plane at the San Francisco International Airport. Reporter the wreckage of the aircraft remains just off the runway here at San Francisco International Airport. Investigators are continuing their examination around the clock. The black box recorder from the plane indicate that everything was operating normally on this flight. Trouble set in in just the last seven seconds. New video taken by National Transportation safety board investigators gives a closeup look at the wrecked aircraft. Pieces from a tail section, to landing gear strewn along the runway. The pilot at the controls had thousands of hours of experience on other planes but had logged just 43 hours with the boeing 777. Saturday was his first attempt landing the aircraft at San Franciscos airport. The socalled black boxes, the flight voice and data recorders, have already given ntsb investigators significant information on the flights last few seconds. The plane should have been traveling at 137 knots but wasnt said ntsb chairwoman deborah hersman. I will tell you that the speed was significantly below 137 knots and were not talking about a few knots. Reporter four seconds before the crash, the crew got a warning the plane was about to stall. Passenger Benjamin Levy thought the landing was being aborted. I thought maybe wed go back up and start flying again, another landing. We went back down again. It felt like slow motion. Passengers had to make their way out through a jumble of seats. In the race to save lives, there may have been a terrible accident. The coroners been asked to determine whether a fire truck struck and killed one of the two chinese teenagers who were thrown from the aircraft and died. I will say this it was very very hectic very emergency mode at the crash site. Minutes after the airplane came to rest and there was smoke, people were coming out of the fuselage as fast as they could. Reporter an examination of the crash site continues here at San Francisco International Airport. Officials at Asiana Airways are insisting the pilot who was in training, that he was operating at all times under the supervision of an experienced senior pilot. And that that senior pilot had ultimate responsibility for the landing. Now, National Transportation safety board officials are also looking at the role that equipment here at the airport may have played. Electronics called the glide slope indicator helped pilots better judge their altitude as theyre coming in for a landing and that equipment has been turned off for a week here during construction. John blackstone thanks john. Dozens remain hospitalized this morning. Survivors are talking about their ordeal and we are at San Francisco General Hospital. Reporter im here at San Francisco General Hospital. Victims are being treated at hospitals across the bay area. At least 19 people are still hospitalized. At last count, six were in Critical Condition. At least one of those is a child. And many of those injures, whether it was psychologically or physically are still reliving the nightmare. Youre looking at the two 16yearold girls who died in saturdays crash according to chinese reports. They were among a group of students coming to california to attend an educational church camp. The parents of one of the girls were inconsolable surrounded by parents of other students who survived. Also on that flight, eugene rah. In those moments, i mean what are you thinking, what are you feeling . Im dying. Reporter in San Francisco, rahs daughter u eunice looked up to see it and realized her father was on board. My heart stopped. I felt very numb. I was hurting, you know, i was hurting because of just not knowing. Reporter eugene walked away. Unlike so many others. Large amounts of abdominal injuries. A huge amount of spine fractures. Some which include paralysis. Reporter it wasnt till an hour after the crash eunice knew her father was safe after he sent her these photos of the wreckage, the destruction and rescue efforts. Six hours later, they were reunited at the airport. I started running gning and then he saw me and, you know, i didnt say anything i just its your dad, you know no matter what age you are, its your dad. When i first met my daughter in the lounge there was the moment i cant sorry. Reporter although this was a joyous reunion for them both eugene and eunice told me theyre not feeling happy at this point. They keep thinking about the families who lost those two teenage daughters, daughters they will never see again. Anthony and norah, back to you. Anna westernrner thanks. We spoke to nstb chairman deborah hersman. You have said this speed was significantly below 137 knots. Do you believe pilot error was a factor . We are looking at pilot performance, communication between the two members in the cockpit. Everythings still on the table. We havent ruled anything out yet. You said the glide scope system at the airport was turned off at the time. Can you explain what the system is and whether that might have had any effect here . Sure. There are many devices that help pilots as they approach an airport, help them come in for a good safe smooth landing. One of those devices is a glide slope indicator. And it was out of service at San Francisco on both runway 28 left and 28 right due to construction project taking place. The glide scope is very important when youre coming in in instrument conditions when you have Poor Visibility or you need help. This crew was coming in they had been crewleared for a visual approach. You have visited the crash site. What has surprised you . Well, you know ill tell you one thing, people think about airplane crashes and i think they think they are not survivable, and what we know from our investigations and i know youre going to talk about this today with captain sullenberger is many of these crashes are survivable. People can walk away. Its very important for them to Pay Attention to the safety briefing. To listen to the flight attendants. Ive seen the inside of the aircraft. It is amazing that we didnt have more fatalities and injuries. Were so thankful so many people got out. Its very important for people to understand you can escape and get out of an aircraft. You need to be prepared to do that. Deborah hersman, thank you so much. Thank you. Mark rosenker is a former ntsb chairman. Hes here with captain Sully Sullenberger. Both cbs newsusews aviation and safety analysts. Two experts at this critical time. Mark let me ask this. When we look at the history of plane crashes, how would you rate mechanical failure versus pilot error or what is call Human Performance . We look at 80 having to do with Human Factors. So captain, in this case when you hear that one of the pilots had just 43 hours of training on the 777, did that raise concerns for you . Its one of the things that will be looked at. Of course, everybody starts out being new on an airplane at some point in their career. On the hudson river flight four years ago, my first officer, this was his very first trip on the air bus after being trained on it. Hed been through a monthlong course in the classroom and the flight simulator. Plus he was a captain on other kinds of airplanes. But everybodys new on an airplane at some point. 43 hours is not its normal in effect. At some point in a career it we need to look at the Human Factors in every other way. Was their training at inging adequate. What kind of policies and procedures did the airline give them . Were they being properly superviced . We do know apparently one of the crew members attempted to abort the landing just seconds before impact. How significant is that . I mean, there was supposedly there was a warning light the plane was about to stall. One of the things weve gotten very good at weve gotten very good at taking individuals and creating effective teams, crews. Two pilot crew or three pilot crew is always much more effective if its led well and organized well than a single pilot. Because there are checks and balances. We support and help each other it theres a pilot flying and a pilot monitoring closely watching everything. There are also certain procedures we must follow approaching an airport. We have certain gates where a certain distance we must be at a proper speed and proper altitude. Not too fast not too slow. Not too high not too low. If we dont achieve those, we have to go around. It seems as though the airplane was not flown in a way that abandoned the landing soon enough. We need to know all the Human Factors involved and why that delay apparently incurred. You heard deborah talking about that. The speed, they know, was slower than it should have been. Youre absolutely right, but still there are many factors that have to be looked at before they can determine probable cause. Theyve made significant progress. Theyve gotten the flight data reporters. Theyve got eyewitnesses. Theyre going to be able to talk to the crew members that are actually flying the aircraft. Theyre actually going to see other people that were pilots that were actually getting a front row seat to watch the accident happen. Including the video. Theyve made sometremendous progress but theres a long way to go before they can understand exactly what happened and then make recommendations to present it from happening again. This may be an 18month process. Theyre writing a nonfiction detective story that may be 900 pages. Many times, the working theory you begin with goes in a different direction and then you have Something Else youve got to take into account before you then understand exactly what happened. So lets not jump to conclusions and lets let the investigation take its proper course. Thank you, both. Sully will be back with us in our next half hour to look at why more people are surviving air disasters like the one this weekend. The ntsb is investigating another deadly plane crash this morning. This one happened sunday in alaska. About 75 miles southwest of anchorage. Officials say the twin engine air taxi was trying to take off when it, contract ed crashed. The pilot and all nine passengers killed. Up to 40 people still missing after a train disaster in canada. At least five people were killed after the train carrying crude oil from north dakota exploded ten miles from the u. S. Border. Mike armstrong of canadas Global Television joins us from lac megantic in quebec. Reporter as the investigation into what happened here gets under way, Companies Officials are singling out the trains air brakes as causing the train to run away and eventually derail. Fires continued to smolder two days after a massive fire called by a Train Derailment all but destroyed the heart of this picturesque town of 6,000. It looked like a war zone. A large part of the downtown has been destroyed. It has been terrible. Theres been loss of life. Theres still many missing. Reporter Early Saturday Morning a train with 73 are cass carrying crude oil from north dakota was parked near lack knee gantic quebec. The conductor said he secured the brakes before going to a hotel for the night. Company Officials Say it appears the cars became loose and rolled seven miles downhill. This newly released video shows the intensity of the flames. The train derailed and exploded. The giant fireball flattened much of the small downtown at arent 1 around 1 00 in the morning. I lost everything. I dont know whats going to happen. Reporter the cause of the accident remains unknown. In a statement, the montreal maine and atlantic Train Company said the train was, paed overnight running but the engine was shut down subsequent to the depar kur of the engineer who had handled the train which may have resulted in the release of the air brakes. At least 30 buildings destroyed. Officials say it will be days before the extent the damage is realized. Now, the scene is still too dangerous for searchers to go into the hot zones. The flames are now out. Theres still some unexploded tankers making fire officials nervous. Five are con irm iffed dead. 40 are still missing. If they were behind me they will not be found alive. Anthony and norah. Mike armstrong, thanks. Anthony, you talk about the rise in these crude by rail shipments because of the huge boom in north american and the oil in canada. This happeneded in quebec. In the United States its gone from 9,000 car loads in 2008 to 233,000 car loads. The front page of the wall street journal. This is a real safety concern here in the u. S. As well. Because we dont have pipelines. Amazing. Egypt, there is new deadly violence this morning. Officials say police and soldiers opened fire on supporters of former Prime Minister morsi. It happened outside the headquarters of the republican guard. This is where morsi supporters believe he is being held. Clarissa ward is in cairo. Reporter good morning. Both sides giving very different investigations as to how those violent clashes broke out earlier today. The Muslim Brotherhood says its supporters were fired upon as they performed their early prayers. Morsi supporters have been holding a sitin outside the president ial guard barracks to demand his reinstatement since he was ousted. A spokesman for the army, however, said a, quote, terrorist group opened fire on troops at the building. The military said it had arrested 200 armed attackers. Amateur video show chaos at the scene with scores of injured and dead being rushed away it the Muslim Brotherhood is calling this a massacre and has said the army wants egypt to suffer the same fate as syria. Theyre now calling on the egyptian people to stage an uprising against the military. And there are also concerns this will have political repercussions. The countrys main ultraconservative Islamic Party announcing it is withdrawing from talks with the interim president about forming a caretaker government. Claricessa ward, cairo. Teresa heinz kerry was flown to the hospital last night from massachusetts. Neither the kerry family nor doctors are saying what is wrong with the 74yearold heir to the heinz fortune. Some of this mornings headlines from around the globe. The Washington Post says defense furloughs start this week. Its a blow to more than 650,000 civilian defense workers. They have to take one unpaid day off each week for the next three months. And the New York Times looks at former governor Eliot Spitzers a tentttempt at at political comeback. He resigned in 2008 amid a prostitution scandal. What i realized is i had erred in a grievous way. Which is why i took responsibility for it. I would like to come back to Public Service. Which i consider the highest honor out there. Only on cbs this morning good morning, headed out the door low clouds and fog actually standing in some of the valleys looking toward mount diablo. Patchy fog. But that is going to give way to sunshine this afternoon. And temperatures warming up a little as desert south western high begins to build in. A bit warmer outside. 80s to low 90s inland. 80s in towards san jose. And 60s along the coast. Next couple days warmer and cooling off on wednesday and thursday. Announcer this National Weather report sponsored by weightwatchersonline, the power to lose weight completely online. Announcer this portion of cbs this morning sponsored by the deep cleaning exper