Transcripts For KPTH Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace 2016

KPTH Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace January 24, 2016

New york city and philadelphia also under feet of snow. Hundreds of thousands of homes are without power, as this part of the country begins to dig out, lets bring in elizabeth fran, whos on the snowy streets. We got snow and more, what we do know is the northeast is waking up to clearer conditions, but those in the midatlantic can attest its a long road to cleaning up. Tens of millions can say they expericed the blizzard of 2016. Many folol were caught offguard while tens of thousands were without power for an extended period of time. The norm did not underbhaum us as we wanted. They began bracing family po harsher conditions. There was no public transportation. In pennsylvania, the National Guard responded to stranded motorists on the pennsylvania in new york, a travel ban beben at 2 30 eastern, essentially shut down. In new Jersey Governor Chris Christie jumping off the campaign trails just days before iowa. This is my 17th snow emergency in six years. So we know how to do this. The ice and snow canceled more than 11,000 flights since thursday. Airlines hope to be back in business this afternoon. But its not all bad. In the district we saw flooding, biking, even snowboard, and this giantnt panda at t he national zoo. He didit hesitate to pounce, play and throw the white fluffy stuff. Chris, back to y. Thank you, elizabeth. I have love that video. And thanks to colonial parking for getting me here today. They drove me across town in the snowplow this morning. Gentlemen, i could not have made it without. The heat of the campaign. Th eight days until the iowa caucuses, donald trump has an 11point lead over arrival ted cruz. Marco rubio is the only other candy in double digits. Just two weeks ago trump trailed cruz by ten points, but take a look at this. Among the republicans saying theyd attend a caucus, more than a third say they have never gone before. Donald truru has a lead among the firsttimers. And in New Hampshire, donald trump maintains his lead at 31 , more than dump either ted cruz or marco rubio, who are in a battle for second place. Joining me from iowa is president ial candidate senator marco rubio. Welcome back to Fox News Sunday, senator. Thank you. Thanks for having me back. Lets start with breaking news, some good news, that is iowas biggest newspaper, the you sayingng Senat Marco Rubio has the potential to chart a new direction for the party and perhaps the nation with his message of restoring the american dream. How big of a deal is that for you in iowa . I feel its affirmation that our campaign is a Serious Campaign about solving the problems. Look, barack obama has done incredible damage to the United States over the last seven years. So our next president does need to be someone who is frustrated bout that, but i i also hass to be someonewho knows exactlyly what to do to undo this damage. My whole campaign has been build built on that, on a fundamental promise. If we do what needs to be done, i believe this country can be greater than its ever been and i believe our children can be the freest and most prosperous americans that have ever lived. Thats what our campaign is bullet on. Were happy to have that endorsement. We had a second oneesterday from the sioux c cy journal, so we feel positive about the get closer to the caucuses, as you know, caucusgoers make up their mind on the day of the caucus or leading up to is. On the other hand, senator, one of my rules is campaigns is dont Pay Attention to what politician say, Pay Attention to what 24th do. There are reports this week that your campaign has pulled almost 1 million in ads in New Hampshire and iowa, switching them m om 60second ads to 30second ads, and theres a story in the paper today that says your Campaign Manager told some top supporters to expect a long slog well into april. That sure doesnt sound like somebody who thinking hes going to win the early states. First of all, this is a long slog because of the number of people running. Its a very unusual primary and niche nomination cycle. We did not c c more ads. We have more than any other candidates. Shortening of adding, because we got better slots at a better price. Were always looking to save money. This campaign has to be about convincing the largest number of voters possible that we are the right choice for the almost party. I know this. If im our nominee, not only will republicans be getting a solid conservative, i will beat had been Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders. In the end, this country cannot afford four more years like the last seven. Meanwhile, senator, i was shocked to learn this week that you have been the tart of more negative ads, more attack ads by your rivals than any other candidate out there, especially from the socalled establishment candidates, your rivals, and your frfrnd and mentnt jeb bush, both his susuer pac and his campaign have really gone after you. He ran for senate saying he opposed amnesty, then flipped and worked with Chuck Schumer to coauthor the path to citizen ship. If they go, i will not shed a tear. I remain unconvinced the use of force proposed here will work. Senator, why is it that the other socalled establishment candidates especially christie and bush, are ganging up on you, and because i know its personal, are you disappointed in the way your friend and mentor jeb bush is going after you . No, in many ways its an affirmation of what ive been says. You dont attack a candidate you only spend it if you feel someone is a threat so that obviously affirms what weve been saying, we have a patho e nomination,n, but alal to defeating Hillary Clinto someone you sea establishment candidate. Every time i have ever run for anything at this level, ive taken on the establishment. I had to do it when i ran for the senate, and even now, most of the establishment said to me you cant run, its not your turn. You need to wait. 20 million did not come in this should this is not grassroots money, but from big donors and establishment who believe i need to wait my turn. Its part of the process. We knew that going in. I think that amount of money being spent against us confirms what ive been saying, and that is we are a campaign thats gaining momentum and support, and obviously other candidates view that as a threat, so theyre responding. Well be fine in the end. One of the knocks against you, senator, is that youre the republican barack obama, that you lack the experience to be president. Youve been in the senate for fiveplus years, so let me ask you, what do you considerer your biggest legislative accomplishment . Mostmportant job of president is commander in chief. Being president is not like being a senator, but its not like being a governor either, its a unique office unlike any other in the world. If you look at the entire field, no one has more experience or shown better judgment over the last five years on the issues of National Security than i have. Im proud of the things we have clef. We brought accountable to the v. A. I helped lead an effort that got rid of the obamacarar babalout fund. St a month ago in a bipartisan way, i helped impose additional sanctions on hezbollah. I also have if experience of accomplishments as speaker of the house. This is the future, what kind of country we are going to leave for our children, the number one role is to be commander in chief, keep us safe. I will do that. Ive got more experience and have shown better judgment on those issues than any of the other candidates in this field. I want to pick up on one of the accomplishshnts you have you have saa often that you led the effort to endthe bailouts, so socalled risk corridors for obamacare which could have protected Insurance Companies who lost money on premiums. Im always the only one running president that did anything against obamacare. We got rid of the bailout fund, which may lead to the collapse of obamacare. Senator, while you certainly did speak out on the issue, it was o oer republilins who actually pud that provision in a spending bill that obama was forced to signings which put it into effect. In factou voted against that spending bill. The Fact Checkers at the Washington Post gave you, as we put it up on the screen, four pinocchios for your response. How do you respond . First of all, theyre wrong. The reason it was inserted is half pushing this issue, speaking communicating with my colleagues, for a year and a half i was the only one talking about it. It happened because we led the effort on it. Did someone else physically type it up and inst it in the bill . Thats absurd. Maybe, but thats not the issue. Who led the effort in achieving that. From everyone watching this, to the editorials around the country, i believe New York Times wrote one saying how marco rubio has done something that will lead to the collapse obamacare. We pushed this the entire time. Had it not been for our efforts, the obamacare bailout may very well still be there in law. Lets talk about another controversy, and that is your tax plan. Lets lay it out. You would establish three income tax brackets topping out at a 35 rate for the highest thats still too high. Carson and paul propose a flat tax rate of just under 15 . Senator, the argugunt is that eir plans wouldddo moo to promote Economic Growth than your plan. They would not, because two of thwse plans you ave just mentioned, especially ted cruz ooze contain a valueadded tax, a europeanstyle tax, you find it in canada as well. Let me just interrupt to say you know that he flatly denies that. He can deny it, at the may not call it that, but it works exactly the way a valueadded tax works, and everybody who knows about tax policy agrees. It is a valueadded tax. Its a tax on businesses. Businesses have to pay a tax on both the money they make and on the money ty are paying their employees. This is why Ronald Reagan investigated the v. A. T. Tax, it was aay for government to blindfold people. With their tax showing how much they paid in taxes. The employer is now paying the tax. Theyll get the money to pay that tax by payingg the workers less. So its a way to disguise the burden of taxation. You have created a new tax and future liberate president and liberal congress now has multiple taxes they can race. They can now also raise the v. A. T. Tax. Its a dangerous scheme. We wont have a v. A. T. Tax when im president. What people leave out is we increased per Child Tax Credit for working families and alloy all businesses, especially scorporations, a large number of amemecans are paying taxes through their siness, as high as 39. 5 . Under my plan, those small businesses, those scorporations and partnerships would only be paying 25 flat. So my plan actually represents a substantial growth in the economy, but also a substantial savings for the vast and americans. Senator, were running out of the time, so im going to ask you for a quick reaction. As im sure you have seen theres news stories today, New York Times reporting that billionaire and former new york city mayor Michael Bloomberg is considering a thirdparty run for president. How woul he shake up the race . Well, i dont i havent spent time thinking about mayor bloomberg. Ive met him a couple times, dont know him well. Ill wait until he becomes a candidate. If he becomes a candidate well have a conversation about our differences. If he as just out there talking about president , theres a lots of people that have done that. As of now hes a private citizen that owns a big companies. Dodoou feel att a disadvantage when youve got bloom berg and trump who are both billionaires . I think this is a great country where the son of a bartender and maid can be running for the same office and son of a millionaire or for that its extraordinary. In no other country would that be possible. Kind of country. Thank you, senator, for your time. Well see you at the republican debatete thursday in iowa. Absollely. Thank you. Theybattle it out as we get closer to the first vote. Plus what would you like to ask the panel about the escalating war between trump and cruz . Twitter you cant predict. The market. But at t. Rowe price, we can help guide your investments through good times and bad. For over 75 years, our clients have relied on us to bring our best thinking to their investments so in a variety of market conditions. You can feel confident. In our experience. Call a t. Rowe price retirement specialist or your advisor. To see how we can help make the most of your t. Rowe price. Ronald reagan would get along with tip oneil and they would sit down and they would make great deals for everybody. Thats what the country is about really. If as a voter if you think we need more republicans to cut a deal with harry reid, nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer, then i guess donald trump is your guy. Trump priding himself as a deal maker, while ted cruz worries he would do justst thatat withthhe wassngton establishment. Time for our group, george will, lisa lerer, who covers National Politics for associated press, michael needham, and political analyst juan williams. Lets look at the latest fox trump is now up 11 points in the last two weeks. Cruz is down four points. George, now that their truce has ended its toooo soon to say, a and too soon whether to say whether trump has done this. The sixterm governor of iowa came outgainst ted cruz, broke the tradition of governors remaining neutral in iowa on the issue of ethanol, of all things, which is an important boondoggle to iowa. Our a worth while program if youre an iowaen. [ laughter ] general Douglas Mcarthur said every disaster in war can be explained too late. S is beginning too late to rally against mr. Trump. The fire between trump and cruz is going to have the effect that the war between dib gephardt and howard dean had in 2004. They trained their fire on each other, and john kerry new through, won iowa and won the nomination. The polls show that Donald Trumps supporters are im going to interrupt you there, because im going tooet to that and bring in lisa to discuss exactly that subject. There are some interesting numbers in the poll. Meteorology most of trumps late is among the 38 4319 among firsttimers, but only a threepoint lead among traditional caucusgoers, which lisa raises the question, will those Trump Supporters show up . In some ways, the iowa caucus this is a highly untraditional campaign and highly untraditional organization. Hes not doing any of the traditional things you do. 4 cruz set up camp cruz, which is a sweepaway camp for all these volunteers who came in to help. Hes doing exactly what were supposed to do if the traditional rules apply in iowa. But its not clear if the trtritional rules apply at all. Thatsshat well find on you. George mentioned the fact as to whether or not the republican wing of the Republican Party has delayed too long in firing back against donald trump. Well, that ended this week the navl review published a special edition called against trump in which morn than 20 conservatives railed. But this week trump also got a big personal endorsement. In chief who will let our warriors do their j j and go kick isis ass . So, michael, who moves more vos . The thinkers at the National Review or sarah palin . I dont know, well find out. Good conservatives are split among all different candidates, but the establishment has become completely unified in trying to kill ted cruz. Trent lott, the Senate Majority leader who helped shepherd no child left behind, now a lob lobbyist, came out and said hes going to do what he can to stop ted cruz. So many people are , trent lost set we need to coopen them. You also had bob dole that did an interview with w york times, which took off after cruz. He did and got into the 1980 election stop Ronald Reagan back so you see the republican establishment absolutely hates the fact that ted cruz has come to washington i love that youre leaving out donald trump. They dont like him, either. Sure, and i think the appeal is hes an antiestablishment candidate. E. For the average voters, who you represent, is being antiestablishment a plus or mine sinus . I think its clear the two candidates who are duking it out are the most antiestablishment candidates. Donaltrump because of his perm, because of things hes said and ted cruz because he hasnt been coopted, and most importantly they fear that ted cruz hasnt been able to be coopted. One other question. You want you to look at an odd comment that donald trump made on the stump yesterday. The pulse, they say i havav the most loyal people, did you eer see that . Here i couldtand in thee shoot somebody and wouldnt even lose any supporters. Theres times when you just shake your head. Is that funny or alarming . I think he meant it funny, it probably is funny. Theres certainly no evidence its not true. Hes run a campaign breaking every single rule of politics. Thats what people want, because every single rule has gone el this country 19 trillion in debt. You dont do that without a lot of partisan ship. Thats why donald trump has taken off. Thiiis an antiestablishment year and its a g gd thing it is. Youre endorsing cruz it sounds like this morning . Im endorsen an antiestablishmint candidate. Im just asking the question, you dont mention trump. Those are the people who have gotten us in trouble. We asked you this question, and got this tweeted out by a fellow d. Or a woman, i suppose, by the name steelers slob, who tweets are donald trump and after theyre doing tearing each other apart and rubio eats their lunch . Juan, what do you say to steelers slob . And what do you make of this trial balloon we see in New York Times that Michael Bloomberg right run as a thirdparty encandidates. On the first score, george and i exchanged a look about that. That was very interesting. On the politics you heard george mention what happened to the democratic race som

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