time air time. sometimes these debates are on, you know, networks like msnbc and cnn, sometimes they're broadcast on networks with millions and millions of viewers. i can't understand, there's a lot of things, alex, i don't quite understand about the republican party and the decisions that some of the leaders make in this party, but one of the things i certainly cannot understand is why in the world you would turn down free exposure, free television air time, and to the point shermichael made, you want to have a debate with your opponent, on whether it's opponents running for the, you know -- on the republican nomination side or the general election where you're having debate with your democratic candidate. you want to have those discussions, and i cannot for the life of me quite understand what the rationale is here. >> i'm going to ask shermichael something that you have a feeling you're going to be equally befuddled about. senator lindsey graham said if republicans retake control of the senate in 2022 he would not