had come through. >> i think it's a fair interpretation, and what strikes me here is the sequence of events the president keeps saying it's fine and there's no quid pro quo, but there's all this sketchiness and dodginess. if you're not doing anything wrong, you can tell the state department. at vaev point in the process they're covering up and being sketchy as hell. >> that's right. and of course the guidance that came from the white house was not to say this was about corruption, not to say this is about ukraine getting its own act, but the guidance that came from the white house is this was a routine review and it's something they hammered to the defense department, and others involved in this that they should stick to that. every time we see this phase there's nothing to see here, of course there is something to see. like laura was saying i don't