played by russian disinformation. essentially they were playing both sides of the coin. they were somehow seeding this information to him to create this kind of doubt and loyal up the american political system. >> we've heard it all. again, it doesn't make sense since the main finding of the dossier was that the kremlin was organizing an attack on the american election system that was intended to get donald trump elected president of the united states. >> that is the top line. >> hard to believe we agree now that we see what's going on in ukraine. >> so why the kremlin leak that, why would it be disinformation? it just doesn't compute. >> and more relevantly chris steele has spent a career looking at russian disinformation, identifying it and outing and protecting the alliance against it. we trust him to -- >> here's the final question on this because i mean part of what -- part of the way that this -- and this is exclusive to