people. so what he's saying is not accurate. second of all there is the issue of universality. i'm worried mr. buttigieg thinks i'm too easy and i'm going to allow -- and right now trump's kids can go to any public school, elementary school, high school in the country tuition free. but the point is i happen to believe when you talk about programs like social security, like health care, like higher education, they should be universal. the way you pay for them and the way i do it not the way buttigieg does it i do demand that the very rich will start paying their fair share of taxes as will corporate america. you pay for it by raising revenue for the very rich but then you say in a simple way that any person who wants a higher education, college, trade school should be able to do it.