that doesn't appear to have gone very far. the fbi picking up the baton, now, is significant. >> just to be clear on what the law is here. i mean, there are lots of places, say, white-shoe law firms in washington, d.c. that have a culture of a lot of political giving, right? they have a lot of -- they will even have events at the law firm conference office. and it's sort of expected that you are giving. that's fine. i mean, maybe not the ideal way to run but it's fine legally. what you absolutely cannot do, like bright, bright, bright red line, is reimburse a person and essentially use them as a funnel to exceed the contribution limits. >> yeah. it's what's called a straw donor scheme. and you know this, chris. it's the campaign finance equivalent of asking your older brother to go to the liquor store for you to buy you a six-pack because you can't get it. and this is a common thing that law enforcement officials look at. not just in campaign finance. but in -- in firearms.