designed to remove back people from the rules. but in a race neutral way. so that they could stay under the radar of the 15th amendment. and get judicial approval for disfranchising large swaths of black people. and do so legally. >> that history, which is that, because of the presence of the 15th amendment, the effort to rollback democracy in the south between 1870 and 1964, let's say, had to be undertaken with this bad faith. this excuse. to me it's one of the most toxic legacies we have in that period. and also something that is very hard to not see a lot of paste places you look these days. >> absolutely. as one of the things that it's justified these new regulations. these new laws. these new constitutions. was to say, we're going after election integrity. cleaning up corruption at the ballot box. so it was to use the excuse of