need to do more. quite frankly, that doesn't mean we have to spend $3.5 trillion, but it means we have to do something meaningful and we have to spend that money right. >> who are the people that you talk to? who are the people you're closest to in the democratic caucus and senate? >> look, i try to talk to everybody. >> that's a very politician answer. >> it depends on who i ate lunch with. this week it was booker and it was bennett and i talked to gene shaheen, visited with marilyn hassan. >> here's why i ask this. i have a sense of what the group internal in the house are, and i have a sense of the ten progressive senators who want both bills to pass, then we have folks like manchin and sinema who are in the wrong category, and i just wonder where the