this is, normally what happens, in a lot of states, the governor lieutenant governor runs a ticket, like vice president vice president, wears other states where they're independently elected. what is the relationship here. in what is going on? >> that's exactly. right there is not much of a relationship really. you have the with tenet governor, who is a pretty far-right politician, the governor, brad little, is part of the family dynasty of ranchers here in the state. he's much more moderates, and has been around for a very long time. in the idaho political sphere, whereas jim is, has relatively, new not to new, this is your first statewide position, but i mean when the pandemic was really going last summer, for the first surge, there was a point where they didn't speak for two or three weeks. which he told us on one of our top shows here and boise state radio, it's just been devolving ever, since you have her show up at businesses. where they reopened before they were allowed, to under the reopening plan.