cheers is talking about the election fraud of 2020 presidential election. nobody's ever seen anything like it. >> i think it's a self-serving lie because people are enthused about other things, but it does present the problem that he intended to focus all the intention of the republican party on the big lie. >> yes. pretty obviously. that's his point that somehow he was a victim. there's no evidence for that. but when you have propaganda and lies, you don't need evidence. you're engaged in selling a lie and having people believe it. that's what's happened with many people and the former president. it's very dangerous. if people don't have any faith in the united states and our systems, it undercuts our democratic republic, which may be one of the former president's