tossing a bucket of water on a house that's already been burned to the ground and declaring victory. what a fraud. what a phony. the editor of "the miami herald" also decried governor desantis' descent into crazyville and she joins me now. nancy, there's always been a lot of attention on desantis and his covid response. earlier there was a little bit of a case that he had opened the state more than others had earlier and the state was middling. it hadn't had the level of outbreak and death that you might anticipate given how forward he was in opening things up. but it's very hard it seems to me to defend the record now after what your state has just been through. >> oh, absolutely. we have been through this for now the past 18 months. one of our first editorials in march 2020 was headlined, you know, people are dying from covid in your state, governor.