in "betrayal." he said trump showed a total lack of concern for his vice president's safety that day. despite the fact the rioters were chanting "hang mike pence" and pence had to spend hours hiding from the mob. there are photos of pence hiding, but pence would not give permission to push them. karl wrote that donald trump once asked his investigator to investigate if smart thermostats were used to hack into georgia's voting machines. jonathan karl is the author of "betrayal" and he joins me now. jonathan, great to have you. i want to start on that last point because it sort of perfectly fits here. the idea of the president of the united states saying, hey, i found this piece of internet conspiracy theory made its way to me. i want you to go check out if