how do you get to a decision about low taxes. we care about that and we care about the caucus that says we should not lower them. it's what we believe in. >> it's a harder coalition to keep together. >> yes, yes. it's a true big ten. >> and there's people love to like ride in on this thing of like, oh, well, you know, you don't know that actually, older black voters in queens don't want to defund the police. no, i know that. yeah, i get that. >> i'm from queens. yes, i do understand. >> these liberals, no, no, no there's lots of people. we are talking about 10s of millions people from lots of backgrounds. they have different conceptions. >> and black people have had lots of conflict. >> there are many of them. >> so, all of that is to say that i think that for me, it has been very helpful to be a