second time. >> yeah, absolutely. that is what he is doing! he is saying that november 3rd was the real insurrection. he is praising the people, as he initially wanted to do, he is praising the people who did with they did on january 6th. he is back to the mall that he expressed that day when he said, this is what happens when a free and fair election is stolen. >> right. >> he wanted these people to do what they did. and they did what they thought he wanted to do and wanted them to do. that is what they are telling courts when they're getting sentenced. >> and there is also this trickle down effect. we saw in the two individuals that were running for office in michigan. one was running for state senate, one was rubbing forgot werner. they were sane unplug machines, the other was saying -- this is what endorsed election race in pennsylvania where he sort of quotes an apocryphal stolen quote. it's a frankly as authoritarian as you can get about controlling, essentially, the means of electoral counting.