controlling, essentially, the means of electoral counting. let's take a look. >> western pennsylvania, as you know, we did very well there. we did very well in the state, we won the state. it is something that i can contest, i will continue to contest. we were up by a massive amount at 10:00 in the evening. and then all of a sudden, things closed and reopened and voila look what happened. so, we have to be a lot sharper next time when it comes to counting the vote. there's a famous statement, sometimes the vote counter is more important than the candidate. >> and that has really been the message. i mean, that is the message that we need to seize the control of elections. and quote, overturn the elections in his wording this weekend. >> it's very -- >> it's absolutely right. >> it's clear that the former president doesn't believe in