they are worried it will deny him victory. but more so than that, chris, we've seen trump repulsed videos, he's messianic videos, were in the videos, people claim he's our savior. and that's how he has radicalized supporters. to think they are defending some kind of messiah. that's beyond what people do, when it comes to backing their political candidates. it explains this, again, messianic level of violence that people are worried about, and certainly, people within the party, who have opposed trump, feel bubbling just under the surface. >> that point about -- your personal experience was just striking, it sounds awful. and that sort of intimidation works. again, i do think it's the most effective, in this sort of internal discipline function. if you look at judge chutkan, or jack smith, or judge a goren, all these people. i don't think they're going to be intimidated. what it is his hassle for them, it's destructive, it's bad for their families. but it's not going to stop them