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candidates not -- and people weren't trying to get the trump base because i think personally that's just hard to do, but there were soft trump voters. and felipe made this point which there are voters in 2016 who took trump's -- who didn't take him literally but took him seriously. a lot of women thought it was an act, and a lot of those voters switched. according to some analysis 90% of the house victory margin were from people who voted for trump in 2016. so i think there's a possibility to do both because that did happen in 2018. excite the base and -- and this is vital, reach out to not trump base voters but to swingable voters. and that's important in the midwest where 50% are white

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