of his major legacies today, andrea. >> thank you so much, courtney, and i didn't mean to interrupt, but i was just so struck by those comments by general austin. as you point out, courtney, one of the people who was a mentee very recently, in fact, last july, when he was being named and had then taken over as secretary of state, was secretary of state antony blinken who spoke about that today just now. >> he gave the state department the very best of his leadership, his experience, his patriotism. he gave us his decency. and the state department loved him for it. secretary powell trusted the career work force here. he empowered them. he treated people the way he expected them to treat each other. >> and he recalled that it was on july 4th that he spent several hours with general powell getting his best advice as to how to be a foreign policy leader and how to work within the political context. kelly o'donnell, you know that