state troopers here as needed. aside from him being in custody, we appreciate -- shed more light on that situation as far as where he will be taken and what if anything else he has said to investigators in this time that he's been in custody, which has now been about 30 minutes. richard? >> morgan, another part of this is when that first hostage was released, and what was the sense on the ground as you were standing there? because a big question was, boy, we're in hour number, i think, seven or eight when that had happened, and we really hadn't heard any progress. of course that's us on the outside hoping for positive progress. what was the scene on the ground when the first hostage came out? the hostage team was making progress. what was the sense there? >> reporter: it was generally -- brought a hopeful note to this