and i've gotten to know jamie over the years through our political battles and alliances and it's really great to work with him now and appreciate the leadership he's bringing to this. but at the same time he paid a price. that isolation for his son was devastating. and his son is one of hundreds of thousands who carried that burden and tried to cope with it and live with it. it speaks a lot to how that aspect of covid is something that is often lost on leadership. people get caught up, eamon, in the numbers. what percentage of that, how much of this, we're not doing enough of x, y and z. but behind those numbers are real people. and when you get into a situation where it becomes so polarized that you can't even have decent, clear information go out to citizens who