sivs, those are principle applicants, siv principle applicants as well as their families members. they can bring as many people to safety as quickly as possible. so in many cases, we are going to be in a better position to provide you fidelity on numbers in the coming days and the coming weeks. it's on as many planes as we k the counting we'll be able to do in more detail in the coming days. sivs, we reached out to thousands upon thousands. when it comes lawful permanent