fly into kabul unless they know that it's safe to do so. now our understanding is that the qataris are pushing the taliban to accept an international presence at the airport to oversee security procedures, but the taliban are the new rulers of afghanistan. they are rejecting any international presence at the airport because they see it as a violation of their sovereignty, but what's interesting here is we've been talking over the last couple of weeks about the u.s. and the taliban, enemies of 20 years, finding ways to cooperate and the airport might be one place where they can work together because the taliban want this airport open, too. they want to show that they are the legitimate government of a functioning state, and to have a functioning state you need a functioning airplane. chris? >> without a doubt. courtney, many people are skeptical actually that the taliban will ever be stable or allow stable passage going forward for those 100 to 200 americans, for the afghans who are still there, but you do have