obviously the prosecutors saying that's his dealer. i think her testimony on direct was sufficient. it doesn't mean he's going to be found not guilty, but it served its purpose and also, as ken said, it did humanize the father. i think according to the google doc, you know, he teared up. so it showed a little sensitivity on behalf of her. >> in addition to that, our doc, which, again for people who followed the trump trial know is populate bid members of our nbc team who are in court also said that naomi hugged her father as she walked past the defense table. so she finishes her testimony. they hug. later apparently she was seen maybe with some tears in her eyes, though we don't know that the jury saw that. they're instructed to look at the facts of the case, but realistically, seeing this, seeing these moments, can they have an impact? >> they're human. many of them, myself included,