next week, before president biden leaves for rome on thursday. what are you hearing? >> reporter: they're going to try. the house democratic caucus for the morning just broke up. speaker pelosi said they were going to try for wednesday. that's still our understanding here. what she said is they want to continue to link these bills, that she still sees, as many progressives and others in her caucus do, they need a firm understanding and agreement on a framework for this larger social spending package before they can get a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. it's true moderates want to see a vote on that bipartisan bill as soon as possible. many are saying because of the president's trip at the end of the week that it would be good to get a vote on those things. i think every democrat agrees on that. but the strategy has been to make sure they can get all of those things together. that's still the operating