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MSNBC Dateline November 21, 2021 10:03:00

the novak had both going up at city kids. paul was in new york city paramedic, a job that seemed a perfect fit. >> i wanted to be that person that would show up, that would help my parents. would help my sister if she was in a car accident. or something like that. >> but he also saw the dark side of city life. a little too close to home. >> i would do shootings and stabbings two blocks away from my apartment. i always thought to myself, i could never raise a child in this area. >> so, in 2002, paul and his wife catherine went house hunting in narrowsburg, new york. a small hamlet tucked between the catskill and poconos mountains. they didn't need to look for long. >> it was the big red house, as she called it. and she will talk about the big red house all the time. >> catherine's brother michael and sister in law joanne says she worked hard to make the big red house a home. >> growing up, we live in apartments. you know, this was a space of her own. >> yeah, she was thrilled to have five acres, or ten acres of property. and she loved it there.

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