around this notion hillary clinton was seen as the safe candidate. at the end of the day, she didn't turn out the base. i think that's really on a lot of voters' minds and a lot of people concerned joe biden might not be able to pull that off and be a repeat. >> if donald trump is on the ballot, i don't think they need anything else to motivate voters to go out and vote. two ways joe biden loses this nomination. number one, the flub you mentioned, an epic meltdown. number two, consolidation on the progressive wing, if in fact bernie sanders are added to elizabeth warren voters. that's why the poll numbers you just showed is so interesting. there is not necessarily a monolithic opposition to joe biden. the biggest threat, add up progressive voters, one drops out, a consolidation. >> puts elizabeth warren on his
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