said to him. this was a briefing attended by many people. and i was invited at the very last minute. i wasn't scheduled to be there. but i think i spoke up at some point late in the meeting and said it looks like everything is being held up until these statements get made, and that's my, you know, personal belief. >> and vice president pence just nodded his head? >> again, i don't recall any exchange where he asked me any questions. i think it was sort of a duly noted. >> well, he didn't say, gordon, what you are talking about? >> no, he did not. >> he didn't say, what investigations? >> he did not. >> we made every effort to ensure that the relevant decision makers at the national security council, and the state department, knew the important details of our efforts. the suggestion that we were engaged in some irregular or rogue diplomacy is absolutely