were killed. you have that, i believe -- yeah, that's me. and so what's interesting about that strike was that as i was -- as we were driving towards our check point, we saw the missiles. they were missile strikes. we were really lucky, i think to basically get -- to not be hit there. >> i can't imagine what it's been like for you to be on the ground, to be looking at this. this is a place where you have lived -- tell me how long you've lived there. >> yeah, yeah. so basically i've been -- i've been coming in and out of ukraine since 2009 when i was at fulbright. and i came -- i'm an independent journalist right now and i was going to start a tourism business to bring americans here in the summer. obviously that's not going to