counted out, trump comes around and wins the nomination. so the candidates who are still in the race and who are doing the slogging through iowa and new hampshire and south carolina and nevada, i wouldn't count them out. >> let's talk about the black/white thing because it's really talked about. i hate talking about this because it sounds like south africa. we're talking about tribes, but let's face it, it's the way people vote in many cases. african-american women, they're not breaking for buttigieg, not breaking for even kamala yet. >> nope. >> they're breaking for trump. who i am saying? >> not where i go. >> you know what i meant. they're breaking for biden. >> breaking for biden and breaking for warren. right? they're leaving bernie. bernie, it's biden and bernie who are doing the best with black voters. elizabeth warren has been doing better and better with african-american women who tend to be influencers and bring black men along. pete buttigieg is doing terrible, even though he's trying. >> that's orientation. is it? >> no, that's not what it is. it's because of his youth, because of his background, and