deliberation about this whole matter. collectively we're going to have to grapple with this very grave decision. it's weighty, and it's going to get hard. and it's hard in proportion to its importance to our great republic. a republic if we can keep it. i yeield back, mr. chairman. >> mr. jordan. >> thank you, mr. chairman. ambassador volker in the now famous transcript at the bottom of page 3 president trump said this, i heard you had a prosecutor and he was shutdown, that's really unfair. just for clarification, do you believe president trump was talking about losenko or shulkin. >> shulkin. >> you testified you had issues with colonel vindman's judgment is that right? >> it is, sir.