in part for purely political reasons. they want to run against democrats and say, look, democrats raise the debt by $10 trillion or whatever the number will be. democrats are frustrated. they know this is a political move. they may get forced into doing a lift that be time-consuming and throw them off their agenda, which is having problems already. >> it's interesting to see when the debt limit issue becomes important depending whon is in the majority. what more do we know happened in yesterday's meeting? >> reporter: well, jose, what's so interesting is we know he's been in contact with nancy pelosi and schumer. the fact that they came here to the white house, met in person, i think, meets to the multiple priorities and deadlines that are all coinciding here at once