area all the way up to the board errs and all the way around the country, nato aircraft would have to enforce that. any military aircraft that could be used to essentially attack civilians would be interdicted. that means any russian aircraft that entered but what would also likely happen and that's why you're hearing so much father unless they can electronically jam, for example, all the air defense systems along here and along this border area, well, they might have to interdict them because they would essentially have anti-aircraft pointing our aiming or lasing targets at them or possibly shooting at them so it would almost always provoke a war in a situation like that. so you might remember in iraq we did have that, but that's a place where we could control the airspace. >> yeah. clint, i mean, are there variables, differences maybe that could be carried out? so you don't take out the radar stations, you don't go into russian territory at all but you announced, for example, that the international community will throw -- will knock down any