up a puppet government. will he be talking about any potential contingencies for himself? >> well, this gets tat question of what is the scale of what russia is going to do. richard is in eastern ukraine. there has been low-grade conflict with russian-backed separatists in the region of eastern ukraine. you also have crimea annexed. there is a scenario in which putin, having built up this massive military force, has a more limited invasion. this was the limited incursion that president biden referenced in his press conference in which he doesn't try to overrun the entire country. he sees his further territory to connect the regions of eastern ukraine that russia controls. the areas to the east and crimea. and in that case, i think president zelensky wants reassurance that there will still be sanctions. there will still be a response. that's why the ukraiians were concerned because he thought