were feeling a lot, imagine being a patient in texas who needs abortion services and seeing this back and forth. feeling like a political football. >> i'm sorry barbara. i majored in journalism and i don't speak lawyer. why is could appeal the state? what does that mean? >> right now, there is -- robert pittman said this law is unconstitutional and it isn't valid. i'm striking it down. the appeals court said, that order is on hold. so, we are restoring the status quo, meaning this law goes into effect. right? that is what will be debated. whether the law will be in effect while this whole case is being resolved. at the moment, the law is on the books. it is enforceable. there is a ban in texas for any abortion after six weeks. >> i'm sure will top be talking to you again after tuesday to help us translate all of that. but do you foresee this potentially making its way all the way up to the supreme court? >> i do. the fifth circuit court of