it's a national security issue. where we have a president trying to hold and utilize taxpayer money to get the president of ukraine to help him with his election in 2020. that's just clear and concise. we are talking about the security of our elections. and a president of the united states holding back money that was appropriated in a bipartisan manner to a nation. and then there's a connection between russia, who is on the sovereign property of ukraine, that's tied therein. that is very, very serious. >> where does this stand as far as the reporting today on that oval office meeting with the russians? is he saying no, you know it doesn't concern me. it's something the united states does. >> you know it is something that i think that has gotten so used to, unfortunately, of not listening to this president, but not holding him. when he was a candidate. he said russia, do what you can do.