president would want to engage. at the same time knowing if the house goes forward with impeachment, the senate would control any future trial. and that would be republican control. a more comfortable environment, perhaps, for the president. but all of that is still to be determined. richard. >> our white house correspondent kelly kelly o'donnell from west palm beach, florida. let's turn to our panel now. political white house reporter daniel litman. scott wong, as mentioned earlier. carole lam. carole, let's start with you on this. you are the advisor to president trump. what should he do with these two deadlines? >> well, it's a tough -- tough decision they've got going on here because it's a little bit like a criminal trial. certainly -- certainly, the president is not likely to testify himself. but when you're trying to decide whether or not to mount a defense, you have to be aware that you're not just going to get to put on your side of the