dissent among christians and he's always telling us that if christianity today, which every evangelical i know subscribes to. it has a high degree of advisability. if some christian leaders come out against him, they don't matter. i'll just give you one number to suggest if not a quantity of dissent among evangelicals, the quality of dissent. taylor college, a university, taylor university in indiana had mike pence speak at last year's commencement. this was widely protested. let's imagine, let's just put this in context. evangelical college, indiana where he was the former governor, you think the university regularly has people from the executive branch come to speak? they never did. this is like dick cheney speaking in wyoming to the nra and getting protested. >> we don't necessarily have all the data when it comes to this segmentation of the evangelical