>> yes. now i want to talk about the president's skepticism of foreign aid. the presidentci is very skeptic of foreign aid, that is correct? >> he is deeply skeptical of sending u.s. taxpayer dollars into an environment that is corrupt because it's as good as kissing it goodbye. >> is that something new that he believes ors is that something he ran on? >> this is something he has ran on, implemented policies as soon as he became president, ambassador hale, the third ranking state department official told us about the over -- you know, overall review of foreignal apds programs and described it as almost zero based evaluation. >> right. you had the opportunity to take the deposition of mark sandy who is a career official at omb, is that right? >> correct. >> and he had some information