with how sophisticated they've become we have to fight back. vaccines are our singlele best tool. we need to continue to normalize them. >> do you think mandates are too hard to enact or not? >> yeah, i thinker that a distraction from most elements. i think families are following the court cases, the political baseball when the real point is that the vaccines are safe and it doesn't matter whether you are required or fought, you should get vaccinated. we got to keep hammering that point out. >> do you think the -- i am curious on boosters right now, number one, are you seeing the same increase we've seen in other place, thanks to omicron, suddenly there is a demand for boosters. duke that the booster conversation was a bet convoluted for the last month and sort of held that back for a bit? >> it was. but to be fair, everything with this pandemic has somewhat fast