these benefits for him. and you do see equally, others bend over backward despite his attempts on them to protect. but like their job is to preserve the institution, to protect the constitution and make sure the system works because it has to work, the most egregious defenders we will see were donald trump falls on that spectrum. i also think a big part of what he is trying to do here, nicole, is to condition the public that he can undermined the legitimacy of the court and if he is ultimately convicted he can say it doesn't matter, i told you all along. and so we should not take any respect or decisions. >> i hear some of that, too. i make some of those arguments myself. but i think what people ponder isn't that he has an opportunity to appeal every decision and judgment, he said you can't relitigate each and