strongest and the most effective -- >> i know. we keep saying that. but, you know, if you can't control that as a parent, what should you be looking for from your school? >> so here's what we should be looking for. not only from the schools, but for parents, also. and i think in the schools the minimum that we need to be doing is making sure that children and adults are wearing masks and that we've properly separated everybody in the classrooms. and, thirdly, that we have assured ourselves the ventilation systems work in the classroom. so i think what we're facing now, chris, is a new compelling message to parents not just worrying about your own child, but i would like parents to see themselves as advocates to try to force schools, school districts, the governors, the legislators, to take up this issue of what needs to happen. this issue of the reality of governors prohibiting mask wearing or prohibiting rules