seem out of touch because inflation was high, and it's true, it's still high -- >> x came down. >> ex came down. i honestly don't think they had to look over their shoulder anymore. i think they could be very forthright about the economic record. >> there's a way in which the previous president was a nostalgia president, nostalgic for the 1950s, when people were -- women were in the kitchen and blacks had no civil rights. biden is also in nostalgia president. to your point, he's not faking. that he really does have in a lot of ways kind of a wistful nostalgia for the era in which she and -- sometimes in the worst way. he actually, and i think the other piece of it is that yet their member who biden is, and it's one of the reasons that he's been able to get these winds. biden is a white working class guy. he has money now, but he actually is what he sees. he was able to eat into trump's