>> the headline of it says joe manchin is the only thing standing between america and senator cletus ivermectin in 2024. you go onto write, quote, in this political environment manchin does it by going along with the democrats just enough to get by while bucking the party loudly enough to keep the trump voters in his state happy. well, now that you're actually here, what's the build back better reality check you say democrats need to walk away with? >> look, i think that there's a lot of this interfighting and intraparty pressure on senator and manchin. i think with sinema that makes sense. it's always a purple state. when it comes to manchin, joe biden got 29% of the vote in west virginia, 29%. i mean joe manchin cannot be expected to carry this burden of going on with every single thing