less requirement for mass. >> but the cdc hasn't changed their guidance on that. the sea question is, with these governors making these moves, does a continue to make the government, the cdc, irrelevant. people will gravitate toward the advice that really fits their worldview, that this thing feels like it's over? >> well, look, i think it's one thing to say -- to talk about masks, other than to talk about shots and boosters and the like. but, look, it's confusing. it's worrisome to people. we're trying to figure it out. but would've tried to, do i try to make sure that we have all the vaccines needed, all the boosters needed, all the masks needed, all the protection that's needed. >> are you afraid though that some states and cities are moving too quickly to loosen indoor mask mandates? >> you know, it's -- i have -- i committed, i will follow the science. the science says -- it's put forward by the cdc and the federal people.