hole in the president's defense? >> well, the president's defense is that those things didn't happen. >> are you going to say that he's wrong, that he's lying? >> look, i know you have been asking and other have asked hypothetical questions. let's talk in reality. >> are you willing to abide by whatever gordon sondland says whap what happened? >> i abide by what the president did and what president zelensky actually testified. >> as we mentioned there are new transcripts tonight from two upcoming witnesses. one is from foreign officer david holmes. he's the one who gave closed door testimony friday. he is to testify pubically this coming thursday. he is the person who said he overheard sondland tell trump that ukraine would move forward with the investigation that trump asked for in that july 25th call. in his closed door deposition, holmes told lawmakers he clearly recalls the conversation because